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Discuss Didn't use flexi additive over UFH in the Guest Area at TilersForums; Hi All, I'm a bit worried about my recently tiled kitchen/diner. Having re-read the mixing instructions for the adhesive I've noticed that I should have used a flexi additive instead ...
          
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    Default Didn't use flexi additive over UFH

    Hi All,
    I'm a bit worried about my recently tiled kitchen/diner.
    Having re-read the mixing instructions for the adhesive I've noticed that I should have used a flexi additive instead of water to mix it - I feel like a bit of an idiot, such a rookie mistake!

    The floor goes like this:

    old concrete subfloor (no cracking)
    10mm wedi board (bonded to subfloor)
    UFH mat (elec)
    ~6mm self levelling (wickes high performance - applied in two coats several days apart)
    left to dry for a few days and tested ufh for 45 mins to check it works - it's been off since
    a few days later I started laying tiles, took ages as its my first time and I have a full time job too!
    I've left 5-10mm round the edge to allow for expansion
    6mm notched float, adhesive on floor tiles on that. Tiles are approx 60x30cm and have a 3mm gap

    Not grouted yet... (got some bal flexible wide joint grout)

    Can someone put my mind at rest, am I going to be resticking these things down for ever and a day? Should I just carry on and grout?

    I'm guessing it would be a good idea to leave the UFH off for a couple of weeks after grouting.

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    Default Re: Didn't use flexi additive over UFH

    What adhesive was it ?
    6mm trowel ?? You wont have enough coverage there !
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    Default Re: Didn't use flexi additive over UFH

    oh,so no flexi additive in the adhesive......whan you say 6mm was that the nothch size? if so that no way near enough

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    Default Re: Didn't use flexi additive over UFH

    i don't think it was a good idea to put the heating on for 45 mins either, you should have just done a continuity test on it to ensure cables aren't damaged.

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    oh dear, that sounds bad.
    what are the likely affects of the 6mm trowel? (AND no addative...)

    re. the UFH, I did a continuity test (it was fine) however the thermostat did have a problem which was only discovered by switching it on. (since been returned and replaced)

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    We need to know what adhesive we are talking about first but the 6mm trowel is no where enough bed for the tiles!
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    Default Re: Didn't use flexi additive over UFH

    Sorry, meant to say:
    UniBond Rapid Set Ceramic Floor Tile Adhesive 518136 Grey 20kg/Up to 8mē

    I used 3 bags over 15M2 in the end

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    Default Re: Didn't use flexi additive over UFH

    I agree with the posts above, 6mm is nowhere near big enough to get a decent coverage under the tiles and the UFH should have been left off for a couple of weeks before being turned on and slowly increasing the temp.
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    Default Re: Didn't use flexi additive over UFH

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    that was funny when i scrolled down to that deano, but i don't think that the op will laugh
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    Default Re: Didn't use flexi additive over UFH

    OK, I can see the funny side... you guys must get a lot of DIY'ers with sob stories in here - I'm sure I'm not the first...

    I've been battling with my old house for long enough to know that most things can be fixed or lived with in the end.

    I replied yesterday but I guess it didn't make it through the mods.

    I used 3 bags of UniBond Rapid Set Ceramic Floor Tile Adhesive 518136 Grey 20kg/Up to 8mē from B&Q

    I suppose the risk is that the bond may break and the tiles come loose?

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    Default Re: Didn't use flexi additive over UFH

    you can get up to 8m 2 yield from that bag yes but only advisable if doing a wall thsat is bang on flat

    on a floor the bed depth must be bigger hence you should only be getting 3 to 4 metres out a bag

    yes the tiles may de bond
    nothing you can do now fizzer,maybe you will be lucky only time will tell

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    Default Re: Didn't use flexi additive over UFH

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