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Discuss Disaster! Grout stained porcelain tiles - tiles weren't sealed in the Guest Area at TilersForums; Hi, we laid some ESL ceramics Molise beige tiles in the kitchen and used Granfix Maxigrout in brown colour (not my choice) and the grout has stained the tiles badly. ...
          
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    Hi,

    we laid some ESL ceramics Molise beige tiles in the kitchen and used Granfix Maxigrout in brown colour (not my choice) and the grout has stained the tiles badly. My builder/jack of all trades didn't follow the instructions to do a test on a spare tile and dived straight in and.. oh dear I feel sick.

    We've been scrubbing the tiles for HOURS with grout remover (wickes) and it's not making a difference. The tiles look awful. Any advice on what to do to rectify this or is it hopeless?
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    Default Re: Disaster! Grout stained porcelain tiles - tiles weren't sealed

    Aquamix nanoscrub is an abrasive cleaner that might do the trick.
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    Default Re: Disaster! Grout stained porcelain tiles - tiles weren't sealed

    hello meek, sorry to hear, could you register and put a picture up, thanks

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    Default Re: Disaster! Grout stained porcelain tiles - tiles weren't sealed

    http://www.ltp-online.co.uk/images/t...mover_2009.pdf

    This will do the trick, follow instructions for dilution & washing off.
    Ensure you wear rubber gloves and eye protection. Very strong, will burn skin.
    Ensure adequate ventilation.

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    Default Re: Disaster! Grout stained porcelain tiles - tiles weren't sealed

    Hi Meek..

    Are these polished porcelain or matt through bodied. .?

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    Default Re: Disaster! Grout stained porcelain tiles - tiles weren't sealed

    Hi, thanks for your replies everyone. I've managed to get a photo from my mobile so apologies for the quality. I'll try using the ltp cleaner if I can get it, we've got a Tile Giant locally so should be able to get it from there if it's open tomorrow.

    The tiles are matt porcelain but they have small holes in them which hindsight tells me I should have insisted on having sealed.

    Anyway, what do you guys think, is it bad?
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    Default Re: Disaster! Grout stained porcelain tiles - tiles weren't sealed

    oooo!!..

    what grout was it.. that is damp picture framing stains..

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    Default Re: Disaster! Grout stained porcelain tiles - tiles weren't sealed

    Granfix Maxi Grout

    Hygienic Maxigrout

    Is picture framing something to do with efflorescence?

    edit. I forgot to mention, the tiles had plastic on them which was left on when grouting then it was peeled off. (don't ask, I wasn't there - but I think the plastic was to protect the tiles !)
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    Default Re: Disaster! Grout stained porcelain tiles - tiles weren't sealed

    It isn't efflorescence.

    By looking at the pics it is picture framing stains.. how long since it was grouted..?

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    Default Re: Disaster! Grout stained porcelain tiles - tiles weren't sealed

    It was grouted yesterday morning.

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    Default Re: Disaster! Grout stained porcelain tiles - tiles weren't sealed

    and is the plastic film removed..?

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    Default Re: Disaster! Grout stained porcelain tiles - tiles weren't sealed

    Yep, plastic was removed after grouting.

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    Default Re: Disaster! Grout stained porcelain tiles - tiles weren't sealed

    OK..

    what i will suggest is leave it till monday and see if the damp framing subsides, if not then please do come back..

    It could just be moisture within the tile edges that has not dispersed yet.

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    Default Re: Disaster! Grout stained porcelain tiles - tiles weren't sealed

    Just another thought as well..

    How soon after tiling did he grout..?

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    Default Re: Disaster! Grout stained porcelain tiles - tiles weren't sealed

    It was around a week and a half. He laid the tiles with cement rather than adhesive as the floor was uneven and it's quite a large area. Is there any way to tell the difference between damp staining and dye-staining?

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    Default Re: Disaster! Grout stained porcelain tiles - tiles weren't sealed

    Quote Originally Posted by Meek View Post
    It was around a week and a half. He laid the tiles with cement rather than adhesive as the floor was uneven and it's quite a large area. Is there any way to tell the difference between damp staining and dye-staining?
    get a pencil and draw around one of the stain marks, check in the morning to see if its receeded any

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    Default Re: Disaster! Grout stained porcelain tiles - tiles weren't sealed

    Ok, I'm going to give that a try. Thank you very much for your advice Dave and faithhealer.

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    Default Re: Disaster! Grout stained porcelain tiles - tiles weren't sealed

    hi meek, sorry to see your floor so badly stained ,molise is a tile I am quite familar with and there is a branch of esl where I live ,when we work with molise we remove all the plastic film before tiling and clean any glue residue off of them ,the molise tile has the holes in it to make it look like travertine ,they have several colours matt and polished finish ,we normally use lithofin fz stainstop before laying and remove any excess sealer that is still on the tile after 20mins with a clean cloth,I think the brown colour grout was a mistake for this colour tile unless you were going to over grout the whole surface and fill all the holes up,I am unsure of how to remove the dye from your tiles but if it was me I would try a rotary floor polishing machine and an abrasive cleaner such as nanoscrub or lithofin abra-clean ,to see if its worth pursuing this method get some cif and a scotchbrite pad and do a test area to see if it does any good,good luck,
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    pictures of molise polished with ivory grout
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    Default Re: Disaster! Grout stained porcelain tiles - tiles weren't sealed

    Hi Meek,

    The link Yorkshire left further up could be the perfect stuff for the job, I've had to use it on a similar scenario before to clean up a botched grouting job (hasten to add not mine, just called in to rectify) - charcoal grout on a white polished porcelain and it took a couple of go's but did the job.

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    Default Re: Disaster! Grout stained porcelain tiles - tiles weren't sealed

    T cut belive it or not works a treat!

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