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    Hi. I'm doing a flooring job for a customer and she also wants me to tile a shower area. She's in a real rush to move in and wants everything done on the quick. She had the shower area plastered 2 days ago and she said that the plasterer said to her it'll be ok in the couple of days to tile on that. I'm not so sure! I know he's a plasterer and he should know what he's talking about but if the tiles fall off the wall coz the plaster isn't dry she's gonna come back to me and not the plasterer! So was just wondering if anyone on this forum knew the exact time to wait until you can tile on fresh plaster? Many thanks in advance Ross

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    Hi. I'm doing a flooring job for a customer and she also wants me to tile a shower area. She's in a real rush to move in and wants everything done on the quick. She had the shower area plastered 2 days ago and she said that the plasterer said to her it'll be ok in the couple of days to tile on that. I'm not so sure! I know he's a plasterer and he should know what he's talking about but if the tiles fall off the wall coz the plaster isn't dry she's gonna come back to me and not the plasterer! So was just wondering if anyone on this forum knew the exact time to wait until you can tile on fresh plaster? Many thanks in advance Ross
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    Default Re: Tiling on new plaster?

    new plarster needs 1 month its not if it looks dry its to let the salt and eferresents to come out get a disclaimer do not prime it will react

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    Wait until it looks nice and dry tell her you'll do it on her back but prime it first. New builds want it done straight away never mind waiting a month, B....y builders!

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    do not prime new plerster use bal white star get it in writing primer comes off on the back of the adhesive this happend to us 15years ago we retiled a site again ask gaz he works for bal

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    Quote Originally Posted by top tiler View Post
    do not prime new plerster use bal white star get it in writing primer comes off on the back of the adhesive this happend to us 15years ago we retiled a site again ask gaz he works for bal
    This would depend on type and format of tiles. if they are large format or porcelain/fully vitrified powder stuff would need to be used, in which case the plaster must be primed first.
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    Default Re: Tiling on new plaster?

    still must leave 4 weeks before tiling

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    still must leave 4 weeks before tiling
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    do not prime new plerster use bal white star get it in writing primer comes off on the back of the adhesive this happend to us 15years ago we retiled a site again ask gaz he works for bal
    You need to prime if you're using a cement based adhesive. I like to use apd neat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by top tiler View Post
    do not prime new plerster use bal white star get it in writing primer comes off on the back of the adhesive this happend to us 15years ago we retiled a site again ask gaz he works for bal
    Maybe there was additives put in the plaster to soften or speed up the setting time this would cause salts or a dusty efect like a loose layer

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    British Gypsum say the only thing you mix with plaster is clean water, Anything else will affect the setting times and could go off before you finish trowling the plaster
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    Lime would be added to plaster for running a mold and also added to carlite finnish and the majority of plasters have used cement and still use it today to speed up setting time

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    As carlite finish aint about now, The only reason for adding cement is when setting beads, How could anyone use a floating coat with cement chucked in with the speed it would go off. Running moulds use casting plaster
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    i was up all nite last nite worrying about that

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    So you should be
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    Hey. Thx guys for replies. I also rang thistle today to ask them what they think and he said about 2 weeks. So do you guys recon on about 1 month then? I'm using travertine (4 diff sizes making random pattern so was planning to use cement based addy) Everyones so helpful on this forum. Cheers guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by whitebeam View Post
    As carlite finish aint about now, The only reason for adding cement is when setting beads, How could anyone use a floating coat with cement chucked in with the speed it would go off. Running moulds use casting plaster
    Who said carlite finnish aint about,is certainly big over here being the most popular finnish used and again the majority of plasterers use a handful or so of cement in it to send it on a bit

    In the past lime was added to carlite finnish no more than 50% for the final run in moulds run on situ

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    i was up all nite last nite worrying about that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Hey. Thx guys for replies. I also rang thistle today to ask them what they think and he said about 2 weeks. So do you guys recon on about 1 month then? I'm using travertine (4 diff sizes making random pattern so was planning to use cement based addy) Everyones so helpful on this forum. Cheers guys
    Don’t forget the 20kg limit on plastered walls. I seem to remember another chap being told to rip his bathroom apart and he was using travertine with cement based adhesive.

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    Who said carlite finnish aint about,is certainly big over here being the most popular finnish used and again the majority of plasterers use a handful or so of cement in it to send it on a bit

    In the past lime was added to carlite finnish no more than 50% for the final run in moulds run on situ
    Where's here, Have'nt been able to get it from any merchants down my way for years
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    Default Re: Tiling on new plaster?

    whats the 20 kg rule?

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    whats the 20 kg rule?

    It's the maximum amount of weight that plaster can take per square meter, like tiles, adhesive and grout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whitebeam View Post
    Where's here, Have'nt been able to get it from any merchants down my way for years
    Where are you from mate? Here in N.ireland in the year 2OO8 carlite finnish is the best we can get for skimming occasionally pinnacle is used whan carlite doesn't make the grade

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    Where are you from mate? Here in N.ireland in the year 2OO8 carlite finnish is the best we can get for skimming occasionally pinnacle is used whan carlite doesn't make the grade
    South east uk, I can't even buy it over here the multi finish took over which is a shame lovely finish to work with. When the plaster shortage was on we was getting stuff from southern Ireland
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    thanks felkin

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    thanks for the thread but it says i cannot access this page yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whitebeam View Post
    South east uk, I can't even buy it over here the multi finish took over which is a shame lovely finish to work with. When the plaster shortage was on we was getting stuff from southern Ireland
    We would get it from the south aswell though it usualy means longer setting time,never heard of the multi finnish

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    It's taken over on all floating coats but you must try and get the finish on the same day otherwise it gets hard work. British gypsum have bought out another finish Durafinish which is a lot harder than any other for schools and commercial premises
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