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**IvegotsTILE** · 06-07-2008

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Originally Posted by deanotile

As you stated you new that it was not the correct way of doing the job but the customer wanted it like that. I am sorry to say but if anything dose go wrong it is you that will get the blame and not the customer. If the customer tells the builder that they do not want any footings for there building do you think the builder will just do it or will they tell the customer sorry but if that is want you want get some other mug. If you cannot stand your ground with these people for fearer of loosing a job then you deserve every thing you get.

One,don't call me stupid.I had my solicitor draw up a letter to say that the materials being used were not recommended by me or the manufactures and that if they wanted me to carry out the job to there spec they had to accept all responsibilities and that my work would not be guarenteed or covered by my insurance.My solicitor got the MG's and foreman of the owners and contractors to sign this.My solicitor says its watertight and there won't be any comebacks on the legal side.

Two,Believe me I can stand my ground.I argued my point with the owners and contractors for an hour providing them with proof of what to use and why,they were given phone numbers of the adhesive phone lines and I even suggested they posted a question on here.All of this didn't work

,there reason was they supplied the addy thereselves(owners) from what they sell and that they had done 3 other showrooms with the stuff and there had never been a problem in 5 years.They have the final say being the customer,what should I have done... payed for the right materials myself or should have done what I consider really stupid,turn down 2 and a half months of work 5 minites walk from my house on £160 a day with regular breaks and an 8 hour day.

This being the case I applied addy to the substrate and every tile,all units with large format tiles were given at least a week before grouting.The tiles were all stuck solid,no chance of pulling them off let alone falling off.I feel thats as much as I could do to do a good job.
In todays climate you can't turn down too many jobs,I've already turned down alot of work because I was unhappy with some of the things customers have asked me to do.This showroom has won me so many jobs as customers have seen the quality of my work,I think that proves I would have been stupid to have passed on it and feel that I have got everything that I deserved.

deanotile · 06-07-2008

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Originally Posted by IvegotsTILE

One,don't call me stupid.I had my solicitor draw up a letter to say that the materials being used were not recommended by me or the manufactures and that if they wanted me to carry out the job to there spec they had to accept all responsibilities and that my work would not be guarenteed or covered by my insurance.My solicitor got the MG's and foreman of the owners and contractors to sign this.My solicitor says its watertight and there won't be any comebacks on the legal side.

Two,Believe me I can stand my ground.I argued my point with the owners and contractors for an hour providing them with proof of what to use and why,they were given phone numbers of the adhesive phone lines and I even suggested they posted a question on here.All of this didn't work

,there reason was they supplied the addy thereselves(owners) from what they sell and that they had done 3 other showrooms with the stuff and there had never been a problem in 5 years.They have the final say being the customer,what should I have done... payed for the right materials myself or should have done what I consider really stupid,turn down 2 and a half months of work 5 minites walk from my house on £160 a day with regular breaks and an 8 hour day.

This being the case I applied addy to the substrate and every tile,all units with large format tiles were given at least a week before grouting.The tiles were all stuck solid,no chance of pulling them off let alone falling off.I feel thats as much as I could do to do a good job.
In todays climate you can't turn down too many jobs,I've already turned down alot of work because I was unhappy with some of the things customers have asked me to do.This showroom has won me so many jobs as customers have seen the quality of my work,I think that proves I would have been stupid to have passed on it and feel that I have got everything that I deserved.

I apologise for calling you stupid I did not mean to attack you personally but the point I was trying to make in my own clumsy way was for people to realize that the law has changed and not in a good way. If you do a job as a professional you will be held responsible for that work and it doesn’t mater how many bits of paper you get signed it doesn’t even mater that you didn’t supply the materials. If you know its wrong then don’t do it.

**IvegotsTILE** · 07-07-2008

No worries Dean everyones entitled to there opinion,I'd agree with you nearly all the time but if you hit a slack period and something like this job turns up before Christmas when you have a mortgage and a child wanting a Playstation 3 you have to bite the bullet,they would've changed the tiler(me) before they spent all that money ripping off 24 bays of boarding and changing for something more suitable,just had to do the best I could with the products I was given,believe me I did a very good job,those tiles werent going anywhere.

Thaks for the reply

LM Ceramics · 08-07-2008

i agree with ivegots i believe he took all nessercary precautions before starting in this day in age if you cant turn down work like that just for the sake of wrong materials especially if he advised the shop and took legal advise aswell.

**365drills** · 08-07-2008

If they do fall off you can re stick them

31-07-2008

can i just say i no white star is the best to use in mistake but you really need a cement based adhesive if the tiles fail and start to fall off Bal will just turn around and say you shouldnt off used that adhesive. Also what plaster was it? if it was plaster skimmed you will prob find they would start to fall off and take half the plaster with it, as plaster skimmed can only hold up to 20KG and plaster board can hold up to 32KG

i dont mean to give loads off bad news

Ryan

**Dave** · 31-07-2008

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Originally Posted by Unregistered

can i just say i no white star is the best to use in mistake but you really need a cement based adhesive if the tiles fail and start to fall off Bal will just turn around and say you shouldnt off used that adhesive. Also what plaster was it? if it was plaster skimmed you will prob find they would start to fall off and take half the plaster with it, as plaster skimmed can only hold up to 20KG and plaster board can hold up to 32KG

i dont mean to give loads off bad news

Ryan

you can join the forums for free and then we know who you are in your posts.........thanks for the input.....

31-07-2008

It WILL set eventually,and once it has be sure to use a top notch grout....Large porcelain tiles on a wall,GOT to be cement based.....