My Husband has been a Tiler for 24 years but has no qualifications to Enter Oz what is the shortest course & qualification he needs to get to get in he only has 1 more year before he passes the (under 45 threshold)
Appriciate anybodys feedback

the info in other threads has changed as they changed the Emigration rules in sep 07

hi there..try this it might help.....

AUSTRALIAN SKILLED VISAS – SKILLED VISA REQUIREMENTS

All applicants for skilled visas must be able to demonstrate the following basic requirements:

Age - Applicants must be at least 18 years old and younger than 45 at the time of application.

English language - In most cases, applicants must have “functional” or "vocational" English. This means that they must speak English well enough to communicate in a work environment in Australia.

Nominated occupation -In order to apply for a skilled visa, applicants must nominate an occupation that appears on the Skilled Occupation List (SOL). Those with professions that are not on the list are not eligible to apply. Once applicants nominate an occupation, they must have their skills assessed by a government appointed Australian Assessing Authority in order to determine if their skills are appropriate for this visa type.

Qualifications -In order to qualify for most kinds of skilled visas, applicants must have either university or trade qualifications. There are some exceptions in a small number of occupations, where substantial work experience might suffice. The relevant Skills Assessment Authority will assess all certificates and work experience skills.

Recent work experience - Applicants are required to have recent work experience in their nominated occupation at the time the visa is lodged. However, this requirement is waived for students with Australian qualifications (generally onshore applicants).

Recent work experience exemption - Applicants who have studied for at least two years in Australia may have the work experience requirement waived if they lodge their skilled visa application within six months of completing their studies.


http://www.nationalvisas.com.au/skil...quirements.htm

Thanks Dave yes i thought that too but just spoke to an Emigration Agent and they said he would need either a city & guilds or NVQ? - i will try another see if they say the same as well!

Normaly you just have to prove his experience...give ant a ring at chase tiling courses and he will tell you what he needs to do to get his nvq..then this will help more to get you's over there....

http://www.chasetiling.co.uk/

I emmigrated in 2001 but my tiling experience meant nothing, we went over due to meeting the points system because my ex wife was a nurse. No problems getting work though.

you need NVQ and 1 yrs experience post NVQ to get state sponsorship anything before NVQ counts for nothing.
Or try the 457 visa but this way you need a employer to sponsor you in on a temporary basis up to 4 yrs but you can apply for permanent residence after i think 12 months GOOD LUCK.

he could always hop on to a plane and fly here ,then find a tiling company/builder who will take him on (but he cant be paid) and try the sponsership route ,as there would be a severe trades shortage in many states

i've just been speaking to my cousin in brisbane - he reckons sponsorship is best, if not you need qualifications
on another note - he says tilers earn about 1500 aus dollars - about £650/£750 a week

the employee tilers i know are on 50 -60000 ayear although rates would be a bit higher in queensland.self employed can make 2 to 3000 a week if you can pick up the quality work-like high meterages in new houses

you cant get into australia with an nvq2 , period...

the rules changed as od 1/9/2007.....you need to wait for the immigration laws to revert back. the TRA are up in arms regarding this new rule. there is hope that it will change this year but you are up against the clock with 45 looming. i would get on a plane with a 3 month visa, go around all the sites etc and try and get a sponsorship. you have to work for the employee for 3 years, thats the downside.

if a tiling course says you can get in with an nvq, then they are mis informing you meryl. you need 900 hours college with endensured apprenticeship. there is no way around this as yet. i have an contact in sydney who i am in contact with weekly and nobody knows the ssystem better than this guy.

if the law does change this year, then you have to prove you have been in employment as a tiler for 20 hours a week for 1yr minimum. they will require evidence. payslips, bank statements etc etc. you need to act fast to get in, or theres always new zealand as aportal route, think there cut off age is 55. many people get into aus via this route...

get on a plane and get a sponsorship. if your husbands a good tiler then they'll snap him up.

ed

Business visa is a choice if you are self employed tiler in uk

http://www.immi.gov.au/skillexpos/overseas.htm

Australia Needs Skills Expos Overseas
London
15 - 16 March 2008



this maybe a help

Originally Posted by tiler burden

you cant get into australia with an nvq2 , period...

the rules changed as od 1/9/2007.....you need to wait for the immigration laws to revert back. the TRA are up in arms regarding this new rule. there is hope that it will change this year but you are up against the clock with 45 looming. i would get on a plane with a 3 month visa, go around all the sites etc and try and get a sponsorship. you have to work for the employee for 3 years, thats the downside.

if a tiling course says you can get in with an nvq, then they are mis informing you meryl. you need 900 hours college with endensured apprenticeship. there is no way around this as yet. i have an contact in sydney who i am in contact with weekly and nobody knows the ssystem better than this guy.

if the law does change this year, then you have to prove you have been in employment as a tiler for 20 hours a week for 1yr minimum. they will require evidence. payslips, bank statements etc etc. you need to act fast to get in, or theres always new zealand as aportal route, think there cut off age is 55. many people get into aus via this route...

get on a plane and get a sponsorship. if your husbands a good tiler then they'll snap him up.

ed

You CAN get in with an NVQ - at the moment you can get assessed by TRA via pathway B if you can prove informal apprenticeship of at leat 5 years and hold at least NVQ level 2 and recent work experience. OR Pathway A if you can prove formal apprenticeship of at leat 4 years and minimum NVQ 2 Qualificationand recent work experience.

Pathway D was the route for experienced non qualified tradesmen - this was suspended in Sep07. A replacement for that is expected 1st July 08 at latest according to latest bulletin although TRA indicate that may be earlier - may be 1st quarter of 2008 so lets wait and see.

It's definitely worth looking into getting an NVQ - go to CITB site and look at EWPA which is experienced workers practical assessment - an assessor can come out and assess your hubby onsite and if his skills are acceptable can award an NVQ level 2. We are in same boat and have looked into this extensively.

Good luck

Nicky

the TRA will NOT!!! acknowledge/accept an osat route nvq2 at this moment in time...sorry nicky your wrong there and that is the only way that meryl's husband can achieve an nvq2 in the time frame thats infront of him....

the ball is back in your court now nicky, i have met with the tra only last week so i dont know where your getitng your info from but it will build a false hope

Originally Posted by tiler burden

you cant get into australia with an nvq2 , period...

the rules changed as od 1/9/2007.....you need to wait for the immigration laws to revert back. the TRA are up in arms regarding this new rule. there is hope that it will change this year but you are up against the clock with 45 looming. i would get on a plane with a 3 month visa, go around all the sites etc and try and get a sponsorship. you have to work for the employee for 3 years, thats the downside.

if a tiling course says you can get in with an nvq, then they are mis informing you meryl. you need 900 hours college with endensured apprenticeship. there is no way around this as yet. i have an contact in sydney who i am in contact with weekly and nobody knows the ssystem better than this guy.

if the law does change this year, then you have to prove you have been in employment as a tiler for 20 hours a week for 1yr minimum. they will require evidence. payslips, bank statements etc etc. you need to act fast to get in, or theres always new zealand as aportal route, think there cut off age is 55. many people get into aus via this route...

get on a plane and get a sponsorship. if your husbands a good tiler then they'll snap him up.

ed

I'm 43, so are you saying that if I went to NZ I could get into OZ that way in a few years...? How does the work/life situation in NZ compare with OZ?

OSAT or EWPA NVQ alone are nowhere near enough but whatever happens you'll need an NVQ whatever route you go. It's all about proving substantial training/apprenticeship and experience as well. The following 2 articles are useful and speak to TRA they've been very helpful with me. The criteria is about to change soon and I'm a little worried it's gonna be more difficult!!!

Nicky

http://www.gomatilda.com/news/article.cfm?articleid=432

http://www.gomatilda.com/news/article.cfm?articleid=439

When to seminar just after the sep 1st changes migration agency's give out mixed messages some say you need 7 yrs experience some say 5 or 4 this in most cases is to cover there ar*s. you find a good agent from oz they will get you in with a NVQ and 12 months (900 hrs proven work) tilers is on the high demand list .what worries me is will it be different in 12 months time.

theres a bunch of tiling jobs on www.seek.com.au ,type in tilers

Originally Posted by Dave

Normaly you just have to prove his experience...give ant a ring at chase tiling courses and he will tell you what he needs to do to get his nvq..then this will help more to get you's over there....

http://www.chasetiling.co.uk/

hello dave,ive been reading your quote,is there plenty of work in mosaicing swimming pools as ive been doing this for the past 10 years.im 36 and often thought about emigrating.i specialise in glass and ceramic mosaics.

As with every trade ..if there is a market for it then it will do well..... ....

I have heard the same as tiler burden mostly .
used to live in oz myself and have employed many aussies over here and still keep in touch with some of them.
They all do proper 4- 5year appenticeships over there and they all used to have to know how to screed a floor/ part of their trade.
If your husbands been tiling 24 years, I think anyone would be interested if he can convince them to sponsor him.
For those trying to get work or think they will get way with it with a short course under their belts and no real site experience would be real hard.

East coast is getting very full up so I hear with korean tilers doing jobs cut rate.
Could be theyre very quick and good so might be a bit of sour grapes!

None of the Aussies who worked for me as limestone tilers here had any experience of that over there , just sandstone and a bit of marble , but this is starting to change.
China is starting to export loads stone there and Aussies like tiling evrywhere inside and out.
there are good oportunities for future I think for stone fixers without so much competition. Stone will not be elitist product there much longer.

I have taken my tilers to many countries round the world on up market domestic projects but I would say if you want quality of life and your a good tiler no better place to go than down under.

Hello Everyone

I am a self employed tile contractor with 2 kids, my wife is a teacher with a masters degree in education.

Do you think we would have a shot of emigrating to Oz? Or are there rules against yanks? I honestly have no idea.

Oh yeah, I have 8 years experience and can handle any type of stone.

Try under your wifes qualifications as a teacher, i would imagine you would have no trouble at all.