hi Totant hope you dont mind me asking were are you based and what do you do for a crust

Not at all - am an estimator / CA for a reasonably sized tile installation outfit in Perth

Totant just a thought if your currently looking for tilers abroad then why not advertise on the forum there's plenty of interest and you can view their work in their albums ect so you have a chance to view before you agree
its a big commitment to move to oz but maybe your company would be interested in sponsoring ,
that way tiler knows he has some work when they arrive
its a win win situation as far as i can see might be worth some thought

I agree , there's nothing like ' dangling the carrot ' ! It seems you've created a lot of interest .

Jay - am new to forum and not really up to scratch how it all works- kinda jumped in deep end - so thanks for idea. Our company is currently applying to be an approved business sponsor. I will definately look at the advertising option once (if) we get the green light.

Originally Posted by terry the tiler

thanks for the info mate , it's really appreciated iam now desperate to move to oz but not sure if i want to risk paying the rest of my aqf3 in case there is no way of getting in after the new rules come into play! iam kicking myself for not applying earlier. ive herd that getting into oz via a sponsorship is like slave labour and you have to work 7 days a week with crap pay for at least 2 years ! where as if i had my 175 skilled independent visa i could just leave if i didn't like the job ! this might just be a rumour though. what's your general feeling about the work over there ? and wot part of oz Ru in ? i like the idea of a 457 !!

Terry- 175 visa is the ideal no question. It is permenant residence status which a 457 isn't. However although the new SOL lust includes tiling which is fantastic an application for this Visa can take up to 2 years to process and cost you on top of agents fees 7k government fees.

On top of that you then need to establish yourself here which can take a while to get the cash flow going.

A condition if a 457 visa is that the sponsoring company has to submit a contract of employment and prove the wage being paid is in line with what an Australian is being paid. There are companies in all trades/ areas abusing this but from my knowledge this is related to Asian workers.

A 457 can last upto 4 years , however you are bound to work for the sponsor only and this could be used to take advantage of you.

On top of that if the company sponsoring you ran out of work and laid you off you would have 28 days to find an alternative sponsor or see ya!

Aussie employers do not favour Aussie workers, infact because ofthe shortage of labour and glut if work a lot if Aussie workers have become a little acustomed to an easy life. In addition the shortage has also encouraged " non professionals in to all trades" to take advantage of the demand.

If you are good you will be respected as so and paid accordingly.

If you were to consider a 457 you need to find a company who are prepared to employ you - on the books. In order for this to happen you would have to demonstrate you skills on the flesh- I'm afraid a photo history of work might will not meet the cut.

If you are serious I would contact tcomoanies in the area you would wush to move to and if possible make an agreement in principle. If all seems above board I think you need to budget to come over here and show what you are made of! - at current prices £1000.00 airfare is small change to gamble compared to a full move over here.

I'm rambling now - too many Fat Yaks on a Friday.
Please, please contact a MARA visa agent in Oz and discuss options with the experts.

Any other questions am happy to help where I can.

cheers

Still no mention of what the going rate is, even though a few people have asked

Originally Posted by simon1

Still no mention of what the going rate is, even though a few people have asked

it will vary from area to area and if you are sub or on wages last i heard it was a good rate but was loosing ground

The going rate isn't going to really mean anything with the fluctuating exchange rate . You need to compare it to other tradie wages . My pomme brickie friend was looking at 2-300 bucks a day , and other tradies were similar , could vary though .

We are paying min 40 bucks / m2 for standard 3x3 ceramic floor upto 80/m2 for 3x6 travertine with free issue ads & grouts. Most of our tilers are taking a minimum of 2500 a week some alot more. Out of all tradies tilers are currently out earning most.

Hi I am new to the site I am looking to move to Oz and in the process of sorting out my AQf111 and then gonna try for State Sponsorship to WA and
hopefully in July apply when the States take on new applicants.
We have been looking at Perth is the work North or South of Perth .
I would be interested in finding out more about work etc. I presently
work for my self and main trade is tiling and I do all refurbishments.
Any info would be much appreciated.

Hi, that is great to know about Perth becoming hungry for tilers. My husband(who is sat beside me) is an experienced wall and floor tiler. We are with an immigration company who is dealing with our visa and he is currently in the process of obtaining his AQF111. Not only does he tile kitchens, bathrooms and conservatories but has worked on football stadiums(Blackburn Rovers), hair salons, complex geometric victorian floor designs and many more. He has numerous references and photographic evidence of his work, which still doesn't show his full potential. We are also in the process of contacting recruitement agencies in Australia to see if he could possibly be sponsored so we could speed up our visa's. We have three children and originally wanted to settle in South Australia(Adelaide), but if you could advise us on the potential boom in Perth and any companies you know of which might be interested in having a look at us. Many thanks in advance for your response. Caroline and Dave.

Hey Totant,I am a pommie living in NZ and have done for 10 years,but it is time for change!!(getting sick of the cold weather!!)I will be moving to Perth in October and was very encouraged by your message(good to know somewhere not in a reccession!!).I have my New Zealand Qualification in Floor & Wall Tiling which is BRANZ appraised so i think it is valid in aussie.
Would greatly appreciate any help or work for when i arrive mate.

hi totant, i am looking for tiling work in perth, have my aqf 111 in tiling, be good to here from you, Neil.

hi working in perth is not all cracked up to be /worked there for 1 year tiled out perth railway station did ok only because volume was there /to work on commercial jobs u need blue card ohs gear/ tiling companys will tell u what u want to here because u will make them rich. / /worked in housing sector u have know how to lay bricks because u have to build bath hobs and shower hobs all external corners of wall tiles have to be 45 / all walls in house are solid render solid plaster/ slabs are up and down allover the place so most floor tiling will need to be screeded some tiling companys only pay $22 per metre floor tiling but have volume/ i allso worked up port karatha very hot glue goes off quickly not trying to put people of just telling how it really is before people make this big move consider all alot of this is slave labour some of these people buy a house put 4 or 5 tilers in the house charge $200 a week each/ they cash in on these people who just want a better future just be carefull truly i have been there and dont it /the grass is not allways greener on the other side

Hi Marty,are you still in Perth??Any advice on good places to live??Good advice and very handy,is there much work out there though??cheers mate...Justin

hi buddy came back after one year we lived in /oriela which is 20 minutes down the kwinana fwy if u are a young bloke no ties u can go south thers work down there or u can go north samething its just round the cbd theres work but most tiling companys wanna retire of u/ im clad i did it though its good to see how the others tile/ and wear shorts and thongs to work instead of overalls and work boots.hope this helps mate p.s the guy i worked for in perth actully tiled out the new airport over there in auckland cheers

Cool mate,thanks for the advice!Are glad to be back in the motherland!!I got 2 small kids mate so the travelling thing is a bit tough!!

great thread!

great advice, so who do you work for and do you have more info.

cheers

Hi totant am migrating to perth 10th january 2011 looking to move to the peel area would be intrested in some leads m8 and m8s for a pint or 2 lol if you like you can email me on klbrock5@hotmail.com cheers

To be honest , looks like totant started a thread got a lot of hopes up , then buggered off without even a clue who he works for .
I'm moving to Perth in feb and will be trying to get more of an idea on who the big contractors are and making some contacts hopefully.

Originally Posted by Davesax

To be honest , looks like totant started a thread got a lot of hopes up , then buggered off without even a clue who he works for .
I'm moving to Perth in feb and will be trying to get more of an idea on who the big contractors are and making some contacts hopefully.

did try to warn all
good luck to the ones moving hope you did your homework

jay

THANKS! You just confirmed all my suspicions! I was never sure if I should bring over my 10 yr old teranno, but since it got low mileage on and looks like new, i'll defo be bringing it.

hi i am currently working for a company in gateshead, me and my work partner are currently seeking work in austalia. we hav 5 years experience each and very keen. could you please point us in the right direction to find work in oz.

Hi totant

made my day to see your post , i have been issued with a skilled 176 visa and have the AQF111 certification for floor and wall tiling ,i love the job and cant wait to get started i plan to be in perth in october and want to start working as soon as possible how i registersd with this forum to respond to your thread so im not sure if me including my e mail adress is permitted .i am eager to exchange e mail adresses etc so that we can talk further i can send you my portfolio and give you more details

hope to hear from you soon
shim

hey pal been tryin to get some info on companies sponsering tilers im from the uk but livin in ireland the last 17 years ive friends in perth.and need a sponser before i can sort out my visa if its true what your sayin then can you forward some details on to me if poss.cheers matt.

matt_farrow@hotmail.com