hi guys

does anybody know what the tiling industry is paying in australia at the moment??

i was looking at the gold coast and i saw tilers jobs going at around 48k - 60k (australian dollars) equating to 20k - 25k uk pounds...i was a bit surprised because i had head that a tiler could earn £45k in aus..

the prices being paid are quite average really. i know the cost of living is lower and the life style is better but its quite low wages for a skilled profession which aus is cryiung out for?

does anybody know any tilers living in aus on here, do we have any aussie tile memebers who could shed some light on the wages etc


ps before anybody says we are the polish of australia, let me remind you that we dont come cheap, and australia was ours to begin with, we only lent you it and we want it back seriously tho guys, go on google and type in 'queensland beaches' on the images tag and tell me you wouldnt be tempted...

theres a member on this forum from oz he will probably post you an answer
from what i understand from oz when i was there the tilers there have to screed the floors aswell as the tiling and all the rooms that were tiled had a drain in them for water to run away

we have a member from oz...he's called....wait for it....jeffinoz......dave...

Originally Posted by crocotile

hi guys

does anybody know what the tiling industry is paying in Australia at the moment??

i was looking at the gold coast and i saw tilers jobs going at around 48k - 60k (Australian dollars) equating to 20k - 25k UK pounds...i was a bit surprised because i had head that a tiler could earn £45k in Au's..

the prices being paid are quite average really. i know the cost of living is lower and the life style is better but its quite low wages for a skilled profession which Au's is crying out for?

does anybody know any tilers living in Au's on here, do we have any Aussie tile members who could shed some light on the wages etc


PS before anybody says we are the polish of Australia, let me remind you that we don't come cheap, and Australia was ours to begin with, we only lent you it and we want it back seriously tho guys, go on Google and type in 'Queensland beaches' on the images tag and tell me you wouldn't be tempted...

Tilers here can earn anything from £30,000 to £50,000+ I could earn $48 to $ 60 taking it easy and i am not a tiler to trade all depends how much you want to work. As for the cost of living being a lot cheaper i don't think so. Property has gone through the roof here in Perth food is slightly more expensive but the beaches and the weather is great.

Jeffinoz

Hi I haven't lived in Oz for a while, but my friend lives in Sydney it took her 6mths to find a good tiler or should I say one who was recommended to her - the job was dreadful. So next time I'm over she's going to buy me my tools to fix it for her - only problem...she won't pay for the flight!

Hello anne, not seen you on for a while..you ok ?

I have just got back from oz and the wages start from 30 bucks per hour but i haggled and got them to 50 with no arguements and that was only for the first week, then i demanded more and ended with on 75 bucks per hour , i was taking home anything between 2500 and 3800 per week depending on the gaffer.

Originally Posted by sptiling

I have just got back from oz and the wages start from 30 bucks per hour but i haggled and got them to 50 with no arguements and that was only for the first week, then i demanded more and ended with on 75 bucks per hour , i was taking home anything between 2500 and 3800 per week depending on the gaffer.

Why come back if wages were so good Paul ?

I am applying for permanent residency as we have a little baby daughter now so your circumstances change, with regards to your visa.
If you have a temporary working visa like i had then you must leave if you have a dependant, it is a strange situation as i will be able to return in 4-5 mths time as soon as mine and my missus visas are completed.

dont worry mate i will be going back i hate it here.

But i understand where your coming from.
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Another thing you will like is that if you work in a high rise the higher you go although the spec is the same the wages go up, like a danger money thing, cool eh!!!!

what part of aus, did you work in mate??

was the cost of living cheaper. i have been told that the supermarkets dont have the choice but they have more fresh produce and that it is cheaper than the uk but yet jeff in oz disagrees. i'm sure he knows more than me..

do you recommend a particular part of aus ie good work rate. queensland and perth look great

croc

i would swap liverpool for anywhere in australia.....

the wife keeps going on and on at me to emmigrate but i keep hearing mixed reports.

any info on aus would be great. the more the better.

regards
ed

Originally Posted by crocotile

what part of aus, did you work in mate??

was the cost of living cheaper. i have been told that the supermarkets dont have the choice but they have more fresh produce and that it is cheaper than the uk but yet jeff in oz disagrees. i'm sure he knows more than me..

do you recommend a particular part of aus ie good work rate. queensland and perth look great

croc

My wife spends roughly $250 per week on shopping but lot of other things are cheaper like car insurance is only $1100 for any driver over 25 this is for a new X5 i also have a Hyundai getz which costs $300 for any driver over 25 Rates here is also cheaper than your council tax i pay $1000 fuel is also half the price you pay in the UK but the average house price here in Perth is $500,000/$600,000 but if you want to live near the beach then you could pay over $1000000.
So it is swings and roundabouts between here and the UK for costs but the weather is great they have just had there worst winter here since records began and it was nothing compared to the UK.

Hope this helps.

Jeff

i recon if you can tile the floor of a shower so it drains down the plug hole and water doesn't sit in pools to create mildew you would run rings around the majority of tilers in oz and you would be worth your weight in gold! Gold Coast, Qld (great place to live) has too many dodgey tilers in my opinion. I know so many people who are not satisfied with having to redo shower recesses because of leaking and sub standard jobs....how about grout that stays in between the tiles? That would be good too.

I'm not a tiler but i've clean a lot of houses, new and reno'd and i recon it would be great to have a flat floor and not tiles that sit up higher than others...maybe i'm just fussy.

Hi guys, just to clear things up I went to brisbane and the gold coast to work which is only 40 mins away from each other, there is quite a bit of work and you dont really bump into an out an out tiler as they are mainly multi skilled this is easily spotted due to there setting out always with a full tile in the corner regardless. The food in coles and woolworths these are the main shopping places is pretty expensive i feel anyway a bottle of vittel water is 3.50 bucks which is around £1.60 which is about 70pence more expensive than here. beer is around 10-20 pound more expensive a case or carton as they call it. The cost of accomodation is cheap compaired to here, you get a lot for your money for 180k you get a 320m2 house with land and a pool in pacific pines between brisbane and gold coast that is brand new. In melbourne the same house is only 80k in perth it would be about 220k so you can shop around for good prices and there are many things you can do to purchase your land and house. I have a deal with my builder for when i get back because he cant get a tiler! end of! the people are just not there. As for tanking in wet areas, they have the joiners do it! crazy i know but why? because the tilers they get just cant do it as they are jobbers and not specilised in our field. I also visited sydney and melbourne. i didnt go to perth as it is a lot more chilled out than the east and isnt my cup of tea. But you are right i would swap liverpool for oz any day but the move is hard when you have a young family mate.

If anyone wants anymore info then holla me.

Does anyone know if ATM are after lads?

hi helen

thanks for the email regards aus. my wife and i are really really grateful for what you did. i think my wife you be your new pen pal from now on because shes sold on moving to queensland. so much so the house is going up for sale next month and she has started the ball rolling with regards to applying for a visa. gayle with for the civil service in the immagration dept , so she will be looking at doing similar work in aus.

so expect to see us around june/julu 08 lol ...

many thanks ed

just one thing,

can you use your englisg power tools in aus?? i know they use 230v but is the plug the same or is it better to buy new power tools over there??

ed

Ed

All your tools will work fine just change the plug.

Jeff

cheers jeff

just got some bad news today. i'll put up a thread so people dont build there hopes up about emigrating

ed

Hey mate... I'm an Aussie tiler living in Brisbane. I have managed to find a benchmark for tiling rates, they are as follows.

Indicator - Average - Low - High
Total Income - $100,684 - $44,950 - $170,373
Materials Used - 16.04% - 2.72% - 32.16%
Sub Contractors - 3.33% - 0.00% - 10.98%
Gross Profit - 80.63% - 64.31% - 97.28%
Wages & Salaries (staff only, not owners) - 7.83% - 0.00% - 22.13%
Vehicle Operating Costs - 10.99% - 3.83% - 16.03%
Other Depreciation, Lease and Hire Purchase - 2.12% - 0.11% - 5.29%
Net Profit (bos*) - 49.69% - 26.49% - 73.80%
Gross Profit Per Person - $47,605 - $32,841 - $65,434
Gross Profit Per Completed Job - $1,453 - $585 - $3,226
Hourly Rate - Qualified Trade Staff - $29 - $20 - $40

Sorry, that was meant to be a table. To best explain that mess, the figures are average, low and high results from a survey carried out on tiling contractors. For example, the Hourly Rate for Qualified Trade Staff is ($29 average) ($20 low) ($40 high). I think that it is pretty accurate. Hope that helps

o i want to go back home now... That sounds like some nice dosh... I have 2 years left here...

Originally Posted by ophlyne

Hey mate... I'm an Aussie tiler living in Brisbane. I have managed to find a benchmark for tiling rates, they are as follows.

Indicator - Average - Low - High
Total Income - $100,684 - $44,950 - $170,373
Materials Used - 16.04% - 2.72% - 32.16%
Sub Contractors - 3.33% - 0.00% - 10.98%
Gross Profit - 80.63% - 64.31% - 97.28%
Wages & Salaries (staff only, not owners) - 7.83% - 0.00% - 22.13%
Vehicle Operating Costs - 10.99% - 3.83% - 16.03%
Other Depreciation, Lease and Hire Purchase - 2.12% - 0.11% - 5.29%
Net Profit (bos*) - 49.69% - 26.49% - 73.80%
Gross Profit Per Person - $47,605 - $32,841 - $65,434
Gross Profit Per Completed Job - $1,453 - $585 - $3,226
Hourly Rate - Qualified Trade Staff - $29 - $20 - $40

Nice work! Well done.

Please somebody help!!
I have been tiling for years and years, starting off in Marble and granite when I was a kid and mainly doing ceramics for the past 15 years.
I am desperate to emigrate to Oz as I have young kids and I know from people that have emigrated there with families they have never looked back.
I previously worked in Asia for 7 years so understand the ups and downs about moving abroad.
I have enquired about work Visas but find the information quite confusing. I don't have tiling qualifications but do have Site Management and Health and Safety qualifications. I have done an online assessment for a visa and passed but when it came to calling them to discuss they said I would struggle as I don't have a formal qualification in ceramic tiling.
I am 40 now and really need to get going soon or I will be too old to be accepted for a visa.
Can anyone let me know what the best thing I can do is to come and live and work in Oz permanently.
I will have a few quid to back me up initially on arrival and to see us through the first 6 months, but I want it to be a permanent move not just for a year or two.
Your help and guidance would be greatly received.

You can get your NVQ Level 2 and 3 if needed via onsite assesment if this helps ? , and you would need to do an Australian Qualification ( AQF level 3 ) and have a min of 4 years work Experience / ref etc. it is very hard to get in after last years Emigration changes and will be even harder in june. Also you will almost certainly have to sit a english Exam and score high to gain Extra points. Ive got my IELTS English test in march as i only need ten points to secure Empoyer sponsorship. I would contact a MARA reg Emigration Agent. theres a great Australian agent on this forum. i would also go along to an Australian Seminar that are Currently still running in the UK for more info.

Thanks Terry
Appreciate the info and advice