Hi Guys, Im new here so thanks for having me!

I am looking at migrating to Australia under the Skilled Migrant Visa 175 under the Skilled Ocupation List (SOL) skill 'Wall and Floor Tiler 4416-11'.

I understand that in order to apply for the Visa I need a positive skills assessment from the Trades Recognition Australia (TRA) as they are the assessing body.

The TRA then uses one of four skill pathways from the Uniform Assessment Citeria (UAC) to assess If I have the skills necessary.

The four pathways are
A - Formal Apprenticeship (must be regulated Apprenticeship)
B - Informal Apprenticeship
C - Vocational Traineeship (Recognised Traineeship)
E - Australian Qualification (CRICOS AQF III)


My problem is I wont have completed an 'official apprenticeship' as I am working under under my father who is not a 'qualified tradesperson'. He learnt the trade himself, but has attended courses. I think this rules out paths A-C as they all state "under the direct supervision of a qualified tradesperson".

Now path E simply states a suitably-qualified person. Very Vague, would he qualify? I know this path also involves getting my AQF III, probably through Silver Trowel, work experiance not less than 900 hours and 4 years.


Any first hand knowledge of this process very much appreciated. There is alot of personal view or thoughts flying about but not hard facts. Thanks in advance.

Mark

Originally Posted by Mark80

Hi Guys, Im new here so thanks for having me!

I am looking at migrating to Australia under the Skilled Migrant Visa 175 under the Skilled Ocupation List (SOL) skill 'Wall and Floor Tiler 4416-11'.

I understand that in order to apply for the Visa I need a positive skills assessment from the Trades Recognition Australia (TRA) as they are the assessing body.

The TRA then uses one of four skill pathways from the Uniform Assessment Citeria (UAC) to assess If I have the skills necessary.

The four pathways are
A - Formal Apprenticeship (must be regulated Apprenticeship)
B - Informal Apprenticeship
C - Vocational Traineeship (Recognised Traineeship)
E - Australian Qualification (CRICOS AQF III)


My problem is I wont have completed an 'official apprenticeship' as I am working under under my father who is not a 'qualified tradesperson'. He learnt the trade himself, but has attended courses. I think this rules out paths A-C as they all state "under the direct supervision of a qualified tradesperson".

Now path E simply states a suitably-qualified person. Very Vague, would he qualify? I know this path also involves getting my AQF III, probably through Silver Trowel, work experiance not less than 900 hours and 4 years.


Any first hand knowledge of this process very much appreciated. There is alot of personal view or thoughts flying about but not hard facts. Thanks in advance.

Mark

hi mark ! iam going through the same as you ! the quickest and easyest way to get in to oz is though a sponsorship , as the oz goverment are processing these first before they even look at skilled 175 visas, ive just came back from a oz expo in london and have lots of info on it ! as well as offers from nsw goverment , south australia , western oz etc saying that there desperate 4 tilers and would sponsore me now ! the first step is like you said a tra assesment which costs 150 uk pounds ! u dont need a aqf3 if getting sponserd ? they just want to no u can tile to there standards. once your over there u can get your aqf3. plus with sponsorship they find u a job b4 u get there ! but be warned the pay is a lot less than the uk , example is nsw area working as a tiler for someone , u would be looking at around 32000 dollors ( 16.000 uk pounds a year) .

also if u need any info or contacts / e mail addresses etc let me no ! i have heaps of info on this .

Hi all, I am a qualified Australian Assessor and I have completed RPL Assessments for skilled wall & floor tilers in the UK looking to migrate to Aus.

There is a very small chance that you will get sponsorship from anyone to go and work as a tiler in Aus, if you do you are exceptionally lucky.

When sponsoring someone to work in Aus, whoever is sponsoring you has to guarantee at least 2 years work in order for you to enter the country, why would someone guarantee this when they can pick up local trades people with no risk.

If jobs are delayed or contracts fall through, as with any trade things never run to plan then the company still has to pay your salary. Also if you go AWOL during those 2 years the company sponsoring you will have to cover all costs to relocate you back to the UK, flights etc.

In my opinion RPL Assessment is your only route, and I would recommend flying out to Aus and undertaking the assessment with Silver Trowel.

All the best and good luck

i dont know where you pulled that figure of 32000 from but no tiler is working for 15 per hour when labourers get 19 or 20 .the employed tilers i know are on 20 - 25 per hour

its just wot ive been told by the oz goverment web site ! and all my reserch estimates its around 30000 / 35000 dollers for a tiler working for someone ! also been told it depends on where you work and if you have quallifications . iam trying to get over there the quickest way (so ive been told) via regional sponsorship and have also been informed that i will have to get a aqf3 before i even apply for my visa ? is this true ? also is there a rift between ozzy and uk tilers ? and is there still work out there due to the credit crunch, any info would be great thanks !!!

the gov websites are giving the award rates which are now about 17 -19 for labourers and tradesmen,but in the real world a tradesman is paid above award rates ,any with half a brain should be on 40 -50000 and maybe a car thown in. Wages do vary around the country and may be higher in some areas.For 30000 you might as well go and serve french fries at macca's!! a lot of the building trade seems to have missed the worst of the credit crunch although that could change is the commercial sector slows down. Rift between uk and aust tilers? - i have noticed a few dumb and uninformed comment on this web site but i think that would be as far as it went.,although standard entry here is a 4 year apprenticeship and so a 6 week course wouldnt get you very far!!!

Standard entry for wall & floor tiling is 2 years to gain AQF III from scratch.

All the best

do you think i have a high chance of getting into oz and finding full time work , ive a nvq 2 and over 6 years proven tiling history with employer reverences etc and will have my aqf3 plus iam 34 and ready to go ? iam just getting mixed info ! i also herd the goverment are only isuing state sponsorships visas , witch you have to be in one place for 2 years and they could put u out in the bush!! h ha ! iam hoping this isnt true and i can apply myself for a 175 skilled visa and just turn up in oz one day and walk straight into a job ? (iam a dreaming)??

Hi Terry,

I don't think you are dreaming mate, there is still a booming industry in Aus at the moment, it has took a slight dip but nothing like the UK.

If you have the experience and you are going to get your AQF III then you stand a very good chance of entry, and with regard to the state sponsorships I think you may have been misled slightly as Wall & Floor Tiling is the only trade that has remained on the Critical Skills List.

I would recommend speaking to an agent and can highly recommend Concept Aus based in Kent and Diane Perry at Advantage Migration, only this way will you put your mind at rest and focus on what is required from yourself.

Good luck and all the best

Oh well I guess I have no chance then of ever reaching OZ ! Having 25 years experience with NVQ 2 is no good, when I'm now 46..... sure the cut of point was 45?

A mate went to aus, 45 was his cut off point

form the hours and hours of research i've done the easiest and quickest route if you have the exsperiance which you say you have 6 years proof is AQF III most the oz states insist you have this to gain a licence which you need to work for your self.

I took up tiling just to go to oz and have a count down calendar that has 43months remaining

how you got 43 months remaining ? should only take 12 / 15 mths? have you got your aqf3 m8 and ru getting sponsored to get into oz? i have the chance to get state sponsorship and to my knowlege you dont need a aqf3 for this , just need to get a trade test from tra ( around 200 pounds) the only down side of a sponsorship is you have to stay in the area they want you to work in for 2 years before you can work anywhere else in oz ! i was thinking of working for someone rather than self employed as its easyer and would take ages building up work.

it sounds like it will suit you down to the ground. Are you going alone or do you have family to take with? where you looking to move to?

I've 43 months because I've only been tiling since feb this year.
I'd like to work for another tiler when I get there to it sounds a lot more secure.

no family there, just going on my own iam 34 and single with no kids so iam selling my house and handing in my notice at work then heading out there! theres lots of work over there plus the ozzy women are fantastic iam gona tile all of the good looking oz womens houses for free ! ha ha ! i fancy nsw ,queensland ,or south australia! just depends on where the work is. u should speak with a agent to see if there is a way of getting you in sooner m8!

I have mate. there is but they come with huge risks that with a wife and 1year old are to big a risk. I could enroll as a student with silver trowel and train for two years as a tiler but I'd only be aloud to work 20 hours a week. how can I support a family on that??

besides I fixed my morgage for three years last autumn and want to wait till the market picks up here 1st. also my lil angel will be older and it will be easier on us all if we wait till she is at least wiping her own bum. lol

were perth bound. probably not the life style you as a young single bloke are looking for but will suit us old gits down to the ground.

hi guys you can gain a aqf 111 here in the uk, you must have at least 5 years proof of being a tiler ,with refs and evidence to back this up,then they will come and access your work whislt you work ,and ask you questions on your trade, i had thie done to gain mine to get throu gh the tra accessment. any questions drop me a post Neil

hi m8 ! iam just about to go ahead with my aqf3 in tiling just filling in the sheet that gets sent off to master builders in oz and once i get the ok iam going ahead with the aqf! ive been assesed and have over 5 years proven experience in tiling . iam going for a 175 visa ! just have a couple of questions , . is the aqf hard and wot sort of questions do they ask you ? how long does it take to get your aqf3 certificate! any info would be great m8 as iam worried in case i fail ,or mention the cricket results ! ha ha . cheers terry.

hi terry, a guy was sent out to watch me work on site,he checked all my tools,and equiptment, he akked me things about prepareing walls and floors prior to tilng and ,about setting out,he was a sound guy, who was from New Zealand but lived in Australia,they know if you are the real deal or not, dont worry if you are a good tiler you will be fine Neil

thanks m8! did it take long to get your cetificate ? iam going through astralian trade assesment