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    Default How To Get Into Australia???

    Hi Guys, I am new to the forum and would appreciate any advice regarding getting into Aus as a tiler? I still need to train so any advice on this would be very welcome. Thanks!

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    Get a spade and dig

    tiler

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    Default Re: How To Get Into Australia???

    Unless you are going with someone else who has a needed qualification that can get you both into Aus then I don't think you'll get in with no way of proving you are an experianced tiler.

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    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wetdec View Post
    Get a spade and dig

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    Very good! I suppose it is easier than paddling

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    well, i suppose you could go down to the travel agents on the monday and book the tickets. then go and have some lunch. in the afternnon you could buy you sun tan cream and maybe buy a few pairs of shorts.
    day 2 to 4, you could do your tiling course and become a top notch fool proof tiler and after 4 days, no aussie would know the difference because after 4 days you should be amazing!! honestly, its a waste of time doing 4 weeks because they dont do nothing after the 4 days except tile different shapes?????????
    on the saturday your tickets should be there for you to collect and off you pop, in aus by the following monday. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dontomasino View Post
    Very good! I suppose it is easier than paddling
    plane would be easier!

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    its not easy ,first of all 99% of tilers are apprentise trained and have served the full 4 years ,secondly you will have to know how to wet bed which they wont teach you on a tiling course and is essential . and you will have to be a compentant screeder as all the bathrooms have a waste in the floor area somewhere and about 75% of bathrooms have a wet area shower (very rare to see a shower tray in aus). the standard of tiling inaustralia is very high so to be honest it is going to be very tough to get your foot in the door,but good luck any way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross lewiss View Post
    well, i suppose you could go down to the travel agents on the monday and book the tickets. then go and have some lunch. in the afternnon you could buy you sun tan cream and maybe buy a few pairs of shorts.
    day 2 to 4, you could do your tiling course and become a top notch fool proof tiler and after 4 days, no aussie would know the difference because after 4 days you should be amazing!! honestly, its a waste of time doing 4 weeks because they dont do nothing after the 4 days except tile different shapes?????????
    on the saturday your tickets should be there for you to collect and off you pop, in aus by the following monday. lol
    hmmmmmnn Ross I guess that LONG chat with me the otherday was just for a laugh then?

    Have you ever done a longer course? If not how can you comment on it?

    I think someone here is trying to poke a hornets nest and hoping for some kind of retaliation?

    Grow up

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    the point i was making was at the 4 day course you **** rofl... they claim that its pointless doing 4 weeks as you just do the same thing and take 2 grand...i would do a 4 week course over a 4 day course every time. it makes sense that you will learn more in 4 weeks than 4 days. even a person like me who needs to grow up knows that. engage your brain before you open your mouth??
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    Default Re: How To Get Into Australia???

    If I read it the wrong way I apologise, it was the way it came across.

    If I thought this then maybe others will? Or maybe my brain has had to much sun as you so elequently put it.

    This earlier post didn't help either
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    honestly i think courses are well worth it. i know for a fact yours is excellent. how can anybody teach you to tile correctly and more inmportantly indepthly in 4-5 days...seriously come on. i know tiling isnt rocket science but 4 weeks or 6 weeks of hands on practical tuition is much more beneficial than 5 days, would everybody with an ounce of common sence agree with that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross lewiss
    to be honest, you can learn more on here than a course. maybe i should throw dan £1000 for all the stuff ive learned on this forum thanks to his endevour.
    i reckon a weeks course is fine if it cuts to the chase. too many of these 4-6 week courses are stretched out for a number of reasons but i dont think for 1 minute they actually care about you. they say they like to teach but if that was the case then they would teach at college like most people who love to teach do...
    its all about money and maybe a 5 day course is the way to go. you wont learn the whiole trade obviously but then again you wont over 6 weeks so maybe its better to do a week to learn setting out, cutting shapes and grouting then go away an expand that knowledge over time and when you need a specific question answering then we can come on here. i reckon it would take 2 years to become proficient at tiling if you include 6 months to begin, 6 months domestic, 6 months on a site and 6 months doing swimming pools , restoration, wet rooms etc
    just my opinion but why waste £2-3K on a course an skim across all aspects when that money could pay for tools, advertising, 1 week course, t-shirts, cards and a few bob in the hand of a tiler for the odd mornings lecture.
    dan should be knighted for making this form, arise sir daniel......



    Quote Originally Posted by ross lewiss View Post
    honestly i think courses are well worth it. i know for a fact yours is excellent. how can anybody teach you to tile correctly and more inmportantly indepthly in 4-5 days...seriously come on. i know tiling isnt rocket science but 4 weeks or 6 weeks of hands on practical tuition is much more beneficial than 5 days, would everybody with an ounce of common sence agree with that..

    After reading both posts.... I am well confused

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    Same here fekin...

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    Default Re: How To Get Into Australia???

    Just dropping by guys im uk just picking up on what you,ve said im looking for a week or 2 of tiling and its between nett and chase ive seen upteen quotes of how 4 days is great ,if im working full time how else am i going to learn ?

    p.s there are no college,s that do part time local to me, they only do day release

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    Ok I've been keeping a eye on this thread and to me it is getting a bit heated between a couple of you guys, so to set the record straight.

    All tilers do an apprenticeship down here and the duration is 4 years of practical (with an employer) and further education (at a T.A.F.E college) TAFE stands for Technical And Further Education. here you will have to attend 7 week blocks each year split into 1 /3 week and 1/ 4 week modual. Here you will be assed in practical assignments which will include tiling, plastering, brick and blocklaying as well as mosaic design pattern making screeding and concrete technology to name some but certainly not all. You will have to do a set practical job ie. rendering a 10m2 wall and 4 sided column in a set amount of time then you are marked on the accuracy of the job once finished and this is guaged on Australian standards. You have to do about 2 prac jobs per week so a 3 week block will involve 6 practical assesments and a 4 week block 8. You must pass all of them otherwise you have to do it again until you do.

    Then there is the theroy and I won't get into details but there is alot to learn and there will be no time for messing about. College is 8 hours a day 5 days a week at full pace. So it aint no bludge I can tell you, and after it all you a thankfull to get back to the jobsite.

    So after all that and you do become a qualified tradesperson you still have to work as an employee or sub-contractor to a company or large Tiling contractor for another 2 full years, not 2 work years 2 full years that means 730 work days and have written proof of this so then you can submitt this to the licenseing authority to obtain a license to work directly to the public.

    So If you have no experience and no qualifications forget about moving to Oz as a tiler because you simply won't get work when a first year apprentice will run rings around you. Stay at home get the experience then apply as a skilled migrant.

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    we dont all do apprenticeships but to get started with out one is not easy,in NSW my 22 years in the trade ,2 trillion references and a business degree is not good enough to get a contractors licence,i have to now be accessed for the tafe qual that Mick mentioned. idont need any of this in vic because there is no licence scheme to worry about.

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    glad i love the rain and intend staying in good old blighty!!!!!
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    this is a great thread. here's where I'm at and I really would appreciate any help from guys who know what there on about.

    I'm hoping to do a 4 week course with Diamond training in west Sussex as soon as i can get the finances sorted.

    On completion of the course I shall be getting my sexy arse out there and drumming up as much exsperiance as possible. I currently work for myself as a window cleaner so tiling will fit in and around this BUT dont for a second think my tiling standards will suffer for it!

    I intend to do this for the required 4 year period and at some point apply for a AQF III until i am able to apply for a skilled visa.

    questions.

    1, do you think I'll be able to after two years apply for a temporary visa and gain the remaining exsperiance in perth?
    2, dose this plan look/sound like a pipe dream?

    I dont intend to cut any short cuts and want to be a good, no great tiler by the time i apply for my permanent visa but am trying to gain as much info and feed back as possible.

    before deciding to become a tiler i looked in to other trades and looking at the critical skills list it became apparent the the reasons the jobs in demand are there are because the Australian standards are very high(tiling for instants) or the trade its self is poorly paid(heir dresser).

    p.s mick. sexy axe's. they both Gibson's? i've a tobacco sunburst 1977 aria Les Paul. MIJ.

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