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    hi after starting to tile my bathroom it turned in to more than 1 job, the floor around bath,sink and toilet pan were swollen.

    the floor is chipboard,the rest of floor looked ok, so i removed these parts and replaced them with same chipboard.

    i lay down my plywood(6mm) and screwed it down at every 200mm distance (boy thats a lot of screws).
    ive took door of and when dry laying the tiles , just at corner where door is theres a slight rock,( from top right to bottom left), its about a 2-3 mm ( i can fit a plastic school ruler under it) and its only at 1 corner.

    i checked the floor and its where the floor comes in under the wall and joins to the hall floorboard (chipboard t&g)

    and to lift al that is a major job. will the adhesive correct the rock if i use a little more or will the recomended spread be ok. the tiles are ceramic and the adhesive is Bal Rapidset Flexible... any advice welcome..



    (update) i drylayed a few tiles and without cutting them to shape, they also have a small rock in them, just a few tiles, is this a normal characatristic of dry laying tiles and easy overcome, man if tilers have to pull up floor all times i dont envy yous
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    Default Re: small rock ok floor tile??

    6mm ply is no good to tile too.... and your choice of adhesive has no guarentee on that substrate..

    What made you use 6mm ply..?

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    hi , the adhesive was recomended by topps tiles , i used 6mm as i read alot of places it would be ok to use,and wouldnt bump the floor up too much.what grade ply should i go for? 9? i also have evostick floor tile adhesive grout aswell ,
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    If you want to keep the 6mm height th en use 6mm hardi backer....the thing is with 6mm ply is that it isn't stable enough with moisture and can even buckle with the water from the adhesive, for what good it is you might as well just not use it...

    Sorry to say this but deffo no good to use....do some searches on here and see other replies..

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    Default Re: small rock ok floor tile??

    Quote Originally Posted by G1zm0 View Post
    hi , the adhesive was recomended by topps tiles , i used 6mm as i read alot of places it would be ok to use,and wouldnt bump the floor up too much.what grade ply should i go for? 9? i also have evostick floor tile adhesive grout aswell ,

    Where have you read that ?

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    Default Re: small rock ok floor tile??

    hi thanx for advice, i will lift the ply, what mm should i use, whats the minimum?. so should i take the bal back to shop and get another kind?

    ive searched that much forums and it sayeed it on one of them, something diy i think and the tiler from b&q sayed 6mm is ok .

    i wil need to get the new bits cut to size so it can fit in my ford focus, so far i have 3 pieces down, easyer for the tricky cut outs and the amount room ..

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    Default Re: small rock ok floor tile??

    BS is 15mm but you may struggle to find it so 18mm is readily available. Make sure its WBP Ply and not construction/shuttering ply.
    Adhesive is fine.

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    Default Re: small rock ok floor tile??

    would use 15mm ply also but as you say height is an issue then i would opt for 6mm hardiebacker,there is not much difference in price with the ply

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    Default Re: small rock ok floor tile??

    i see topps do the hardy board, will the 6mm hardy 250 be ok to lay(12.50) instead of the ply(dump the ply ive got ) or should i go for the 12mm hardy 500 at just 1 dearer.

    is it easy to work with and cut?

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    Default Re: small rock ok floor tile??

    Quote Originally Posted by G1zm0 View Post
    i see topps do the hardy board, will the 6mm hardy 250 be ok to lay(12.50) instead of the ply(dump the ply ive got ) or should i go for the 12mm hardy 500 at just 1 dearer.

    is it easy to work with and cut?
    If your sub floor is sound then 6mm Hardi will be fine. If the floor has any bounce then Ply will add more strength than Hardi backer boards. Remember to secure your sub floor to the joists first too add strength.

    Cutting of hardi in straight lines is no problem with their scriber but cuttting around shapes are tricky. I use an angle grinder myself or a rotozip.
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    Default Re: small rock ok floor tile??

    thanx for reply,is a jigsaw anygood?, the floor is secured to joists, i made sure of that ans replaced a good few parts and where the board was only secured using the t&g (not supported by joist) i added a bit wood and nailed it to it so no bounce.

    will the hardi do away with my original prob of the rocking tile? or should i bite the bullet, lift all the floor and redo with 18mm ply then i can tile straight onto that?



    when you guys add the additional hight, what do yous do about the difference in floor height between the hall and toilet?

    a looked at the bridges that hide a the joint of carpet to tiles but they are for flat surfaces not a stap of 18mm???


    lol prob would have been cheaper getting someone in to do it, spent over 300 on wood, tools ect

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    Default Re: small rock ok floor tile??

    i read theres an alternative to the hardi board, called no more ply and its easy to cut, but need special glue and nails to affix it?.

    i was trying to see where the resellers of this product is based around galsgow area.

    for under 8 compired to the price of hardi is good, keep costs down

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